Comments on: The Motorola Q: A Field Report http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/ Dispatches from the Petascale World Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:34:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: John http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-4891 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:39:23 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-4891 I have always wanted a compendium of novena prayers. Thank you for sharing all these prayers with us. It brings joy and happiness to everyone. I know, I do feel that way.f

]]> By: BlackBerry vs Windows Mobile | Jeremy Phillips http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-4879 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:34:39 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-4879 [...] reading the articles he linked to (The Motorola Q: A Field Report & 24 Hours With The Samsung BlackJack – First Impressions) it turns out that Omar’s [...]

]]> By: My 24 Hour Affair with a Blackberry 8800 « Socket Jockeying http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-222 Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:23:37 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-222 [...] · No Comments I have a confession to make.  I’ve been unfaithful.  Those who have read my blog before, may be aware that I’m in a fairly disappointing relationship with  my current [...]

]]> By: My 24 Hour Affair with a Blackberry 8800 « Socket Jockeying http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-221 Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:21:33 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-221 [...] I have a confession to make.  I’ve been unfaithful.  Those who have read my blog before, may be aware that I’m in a fairly disappointing relationship with  my [...]

]]> By: Steve Schreiber http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-34 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:05:49 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-34 Sorry John, I suspect you’re out of luck.

I believe that this is because WM treats SMS with the mail metaphor. That is, each message is a mail object, regardless of origin (SMS, IMAP, POP, Exchange). This is also why there are things like the intermediary screen I mentioned where the hotkey to the inbox asks “which” inbox.

The only way that you’d get what you’re asking for is for the mail client on WM to support conversation threading (a feature that I understand they have no plans to build any time soon).

In the WM team’s defense, this isn’t that unusual a metaphor for SMS. It’s only some 3rd party applications and now new things like the iPhone SMS support that treat these are more “on going conversations” (ala IM).

]]> By: John K http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-32 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:18:09 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-32 Anyone notice that you CANNOT see the message you’re replying to in SMS/texting?

in other words, you write me a text, and I reply- Now if you write back, I cannot see the chain history?
OR
Lets say someone responds days later to an SMS/TExt? i can’t see what they’re responding to, sometimes it makes no sense because the subject is now out of mind.

ANYONE know how to fix or if a fix even exists???

]]> By: Bill http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-13 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:50:59 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-13 Steve, I really enjoyed your post, especially regarding the fit and finish in the UI. At my old company I had several models of BlackBerry — as an email application you could go several days without access to a laptop and not be too put out. I would never say the same about the Q and Pocket Outlook. And I agree with you that it won’t get any better until folks in Microsoft are forced to live without desktop Outlook for days on end.

Some other things I really miss about the Blackberry versus the Q and Windows Mobile:

1. Number of messages in memory. The Q seems to top out at something like 50 messages (I’ve never counted, exactly, but it’s not a lot esp. compared to the BlackBerry) and I don’t see a way to change it.

2. No Sort/Search/Filter. WTF? The BlackBerry not only has arbitrary search, it has one-click search by sender and search by subject. I used that frequently — it was a great way to trim down long threads.

3. The BlackBerry “Get More” is transparent; you simply wait a bit when you get to the place where it was truncated and it downloads the next chunk in the background. WM is modal — you have to explicitly say you want the rest of the message and then you have to Send/Receive. Yuck.

4. Why can’t you customize the Start menu (delete, re-order)? If there’s a way to do it, I haven’t figured it out.

5. Why is some stuff in the Start Menu and other stuff in the Control Panel? There’s no rhyme nor reason as to what lives where. The BlackBerry is much more consistent although still somewhat arcane in places.

I really want to like the Q more. The web browser on EVDO is pretty nice and snappy. There’s lots more software to download and some of it is actually pretty darn good.

But I can’t imagine using my Q for anything but casual email.

]]> By: Steve Schreiber http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-11 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:06:05 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-11 Ben – You’re quite right, the Palm OS flavor of the Treo is probably better than most (the Win Mobile version of the Treo still has a few more steps/clicks to do many of the same things). However, I’ve never been a user of either, so I’m not positive, but I’m assuming that you cannot single handedly (and without some kind of “using a thumb as a stylus” gymnastics) do mark-read/unread, move to a folder, etc. This type of behavior in Windows is usually left to the context menu, and this – depending on if it’s PPC or Smartphone – is either a stylus or a separate smartkey away. The BB gives this to you with the “right-click” of the scroll wheel, which I always preferred for hardcore on the go email triage. If the Palm can do the same with minimal hand gymnastics and basically one step, then that’s good to hear.

]]> By: Ben Combee http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-10 Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:03:10 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-10 I’m a Treo 700p user, and I never use my stylus to triage my email. The five-way navigation makes it quite easy — just hit the email button to go to Versamail, then up/down to select my messages, and then backspace to delete the selected one. After winnowing out what I don’t want to read, I then just scroll up and click the center button to pick the item.

]]> By: shahine.com/omar/ - Windows Mobile Shortcomings vs Blackberry http://socketjockeying.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-8 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:27:54 +0000 http://socketjockeying.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/the-motorola-q-a-field-report/#comment-8 [...] Anyway, my co-worker, Steve Schreiber talks about his experiences with Windows Mobile and the Q and my fellow blogger Greg Hughes talks about his experiences with the Samsung Blackjack (my current phone). [...]

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